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      I'm an art fan, I work at a gallery, I've had art education and training and I'd say he is quite good. Besides, you can argue that all post-modern art is derivative. I have no problem with someone buying an art book because the artist is a well liked musician. Everyone must start somewhere right?
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      Just out of curiosity, whose work is Will jacking? I've always thought his work was quite unique but I'm no art expert.

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      i also wonder which artist will is a derivative of. please enlighten me harnk, or anyone? i'm not an expert either, but i've never come across anything as striking as some of the stuff will has done recently.
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      he has a "kiss army" avatar. just pretend he doesn't exist.

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      Haha, well while many of Harnk's comments are much more barbed than anything I would post, he often speaks the truth. Plus, he's a smart and well-informed dude.

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      Quote Originally Posted by applesacks View Post
      he has a "kiss army" avatar. just pretend he doesn't exist.
      lol i know it doesn't really matter, it comes down to what the artist makes you feel, so i was kind of catering to him...but i have to admit i like the song strutter
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      oh yeah i like strutter, dr. love and detroit rock city
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      Quote Originally Posted by samanthafayIFD View Post
      Haha, well while many of Harnk's comments are much more barbed than anything I would post, he often speaks the truth. Plus, he's a smart and well-informed dude.
      That's right. Most smart and well-informed dudes get their jollies off of flaming total strangers on internet messageboards? If he's so smart, maybe he should take a time-out and ask himself "What's the real reason I do this?" and maybe he can get some help?
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      You don't really need to be "smart" or "well informed" to call an artist derivative or insist someone just likes a musician's art because they like the musician. Those are just vapid "hey look at me pretending I'm more knowledgeable of the fine arts than you are" things to say.

      Art is so subjective anyway that calling someone "derivative" is essentially meaningless unless you can show that they are derivative in a vacuous sense or so derivative of a particular artist as to constitute a "rip off." But of course Harnk or whatever will never come through with the goods because he doesn't actually know anything about "art" and even if he did who the hell cares? Art is as institutional and dogmatic as anything else. What does it even mean to be "derivative" in a field where you can throw a dead shark in a tank of Formaldehyde and literally call it "The Physical Impossibility of Death in the Mind of Someone Living" (with no sense of irony) and be a respected artist? You really think there's some objective standard that you can just summarily judge an artist like Will Cullen Hart as "derivative" based on? What would it be? Some nebulous criteria that Harnk is never actually going to outline but rather rely on his pompousness to make people infer that he's "well informed" even though he probably isn't? And even if he is, being "well informed" in art requires nothing more than 40 thousand dollars of your parents money and the patience to write bullshit critiques for four years on a bunch of paintings that you never would've heard of or cared about if some professor hadn't thrown it up on a power point in front of a bunch of apathetic twenty somethings who are probably too busy texting people and thinking about drugs to appreciate any of the supposed "artistic merit."

      But go ahead, Harnk. Lay it on us. Let's hear your brilliant artistic analysis, because a guy like you who is "smart" enough to think that nobody's ever bought the work of Pollock or Picasso or Magritte or Warhol or Dali or Steadman or Klimpt or Klee or Glorp or Gloo just because of the name it was attached to probably has some real eye-opening shit to say about the work of Will Cullen Hart.

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